Comments on: The Effemination Of Males http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/african-american-studies/the-effemination-of-males-2010-01-595 Political Science Weblog Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:54:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Blake J. Harris http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/african-american-studies/the-effemination-of-males-2010-01-595/comment-page-1#comment-1146 Blake J. Harris Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:38:04 +0000 http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/?p=595#comment-1146 I agree. What it means to be a man has become distorted in America over what seems the past hundred years. Today our society gives males two choices either be a "Strong" but, vulger, unmannered, moronic "Manly Man" or an "Educated" but effeminate, wimpish, whiny, utterly useless, one who only reads what is popular among equaly effeminate and educated people, makes generalizations, afraid of what others think "Enlightened Male". Gone are such notions that men can be warrior poets, Liberaly educated men that demonstrate the Greek virtue of Arete, Thinkers that bravely face persecution for the truth, Artists but still be incredibly masculine, have deep unbreakable bonds of friendship with other men, demonstrate all your emotions while still being Masculine, or the chivalrous gentleman. Not only Men but Women can no longer be what God created them to be. We live in a world where men cannot be like King David or Socrates and Women cannot be like the Prophetess Deborah or Esther. I agree. What it means to be a man has become distorted in America over what seems the past hundred years. Today our society gives males two choices either be a “Strong” but, vulger, unmannered, moronic “Manly Man” or an “Educated” but effeminate, wimpish, whiny, utterly useless, one who only reads what is popular among equaly effeminate and educated people, makes generalizations, afraid of what others think “Enlightened Male”. Gone are such notions that men can be warrior poets, Liberaly educated men that demonstrate the Greek virtue of Arete, Thinkers that bravely face persecution for the truth, Artists but still be incredibly masculine, have deep unbreakable bonds of friendship with other men, demonstrate all your emotions while still being Masculine, or the chivalrous gentleman. Not only Men but Women can no longer be what God created them to be. We live in a world where men cannot be like King David or Socrates and Women cannot be like the Prophetess Deborah or Esther.

]]> By: DeAngelo Watson http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/african-american-studies/the-effemination-of-males-2010-01-595/comment-page-1#comment-1140 DeAngelo Watson Thu, 01 Apr 2010 06:41:59 +0000 http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/?p=595#comment-1140 DeAngelo Watson Gov.2302-4002 Tues and thurs. 11 A man can be a little feminine but still be a man and take care of his. If a black man has just a touch of feminism in him then black men and woman automatically label him as being gay. I always hear black women say I wish he could understand where I'm coming from, or I wish he could be in my shoes, or I wish he could treat me right and do for me, but when he does do it and he isn't all rough and thuggish and ghetto she assumes he is gay. But that's not the case the case is that she is use to dealing with ghetto thuggish people that all she see is a soft man is coming long and treating her right but she don't want him cause he is a lil soft. That's ignorance on her part, if he treating you right and he is a lil soft then there should be no problem. DeAngelo Watson
Gov.2302-4002
Tues and thurs. 11
A man can be a little feminine but still be a man and take care of his. If a black man has just a touch of feminism in him then black men and woman automatically label him as being gay. I always hear black women say I wish he could understand where I’m coming from, or I wish he could be in my shoes, or I wish he could treat me right and do for me, but when he does do it and he isn’t all rough and thuggish and ghetto she assumes he is gay. But that’s not the case the case is that she is use to dealing with ghetto thuggish people that all she see is a soft man is coming long and treating her right but she don’t want him cause he is a lil soft. That’s ignorance on her part, if he treating you right and he is a lil soft then there should be no problem.

]]> By: victor martinez/1724476 http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/african-american-studies/the-effemination-of-males-2010-01-595/comment-page-1#comment-1111 victor martinez/1724476 Thu, 01 Apr 2010 01:59:13 +0000 http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/?p=595#comment-1111 I do believe that men should not act different just to keep a job and that being effeminated is due to all of this facts given in this blog but i have also seen personally that when there are just women in the house and one child that grows with nothing with women, might himself adapt to the character around him and sooner or later find himself effeminize but in this case the father has the responsabilitiy to talk to the child and give him advice. Efeminize men should understand a different concept of proffesionalism that not necessarily has to convert him or her into a different character almost and opposite gender just to comply with the mores or folkways of the people around him/her. I do believe that men should not act different just to keep a job and that being effeminated is due to all of this facts given in this blog but i have also seen personally that when there are just women in the house and one child that grows with nothing with women, might himself adapt to the character around him and sooner or later find himself effeminize but in this case the father has the responsabilitiy to talk to the child and give him advice. Efeminize men should understand a different concept of proffesionalism that not necessarily has to convert him or her into a different character almost and opposite gender just to comply with the mores or folkways of the people around him/her.

]]> By: samantha williams http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/african-american-studies/the-effemination-of-males-2010-01-595/comment-page-1#comment-1050 samantha williams Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:10:35 +0000 http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/?p=595#comment-1050 I cannot stand these sorry ass soft negroes. It is so hard to find a strong, educated, masculine man that knows how to handle his business. They are a very rare breed and so they have a lot of options when it comes to dating. I have a son and i refuse to let him grow up and jump from woman to woman because he cant hold his own. I applaud the dumb broads who do take care of these men because somebody's gotta do, it sure as hell won't be me. I cannot stand these sorry ass soft negroes. It is so hard to find a strong, educated, masculine man that knows how to handle his business. They are a very rare breed and so they have a lot of options when it comes to dating. I have a son and i refuse to let him grow up and jump from woman to woman because he cant hold his own. I applaud the dumb broads who do take care of these men because somebody’s gotta do, it sure as hell won’t be me.

]]> By: CHAD HOEDEBECK http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/african-american-studies/the-effemination-of-males-2010-01-595/comment-page-1#comment-979 CHAD HOEDEBECK Tue, 30 Mar 2010 03:47:37 +0000 http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/?p=595#comment-979 I can understand your point. This is the way society has become. These days you have the effemination of males or as I have heard them called the metrosexuals. Today allot of younger women have a tendency to be attracted to men that have a less manly look to them. I mean look at the movies twilight, young ladies go crazy for the guy. I think the reason you see this in the work place is because of men being so scared of sexual harassment charges. They figure if they can associate in this way, they are less threatening. The lesbian thing I’m not too sure about. I have known several lesbians and have yet to get that vibe from them. I can understand your point. This is the way society has become. These days you have the effemination of males or as I have heard them called the metrosexuals. Today allot of younger women have a tendency to be attracted to men that have a less manly look to them. I mean look at the movies twilight, young ladies go crazy for the guy. I think the reason you see this in the work place is because of men being so scared of sexual harassment charges. They figure if they can associate in this way, they are less threatening. The lesbian thing I’m not too sure about. I have known several lesbians and have yet to get that vibe from them.

]]> By: Lori Ingram http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/african-american-studies/the-effemination-of-males-2010-01-595/comment-page-1#comment-924 Lori Ingram Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:27:42 +0000 http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/?p=595#comment-924 I can understand your point, but I do not agree. You are insinuating if a man is effeminate, he is not masculine, then he must be gay. Every individual has an opinion of what masculinity means to him or her. There are women who are not soft spoken nor are they tender and soft. By no means does this mean she is any less of a woman. In the same way, if a man is soft spoken and reserved does not indicate he is not masculine. There are little boys in my cradle roll class -nineteen through twenty-four months- at church who play with dolls and doll carriages. They have not yet been conditioned by society to believe dolls are only for girls. Some of the little girls in my cradle roll class play with building tools, such as plastic hammers and bulldozers. My piont is, society dictates how men and women should behave, and if they do not fit into that stereotype, there must be something wrong with them. I am a strong believer in the fact GOD made man to be the hunter and provider and women to be the caregiver and nurturing. Men can be providers and leaders of their households without being aggressive and obstinate. There are men who are born with a quite and demure disposition and that should be enough. I can understand your point, but I do not agree. You are insinuating if a man is effeminate, he is not masculine, then he must be gay. Every individual has an opinion of what masculinity means to him or her. There are women who are not soft spoken nor are they tender and soft. By no means does this mean she is any less of a woman. In the same way, if a man is soft spoken and reserved does not indicate he is not masculine.
There are little boys in my cradle roll class -nineteen through twenty-four months- at church who play with dolls and doll carriages. They have not yet been conditioned by society to believe dolls are only for girls. Some of the little girls in my cradle roll class play with building tools, such as plastic hammers and bulldozers. My piont is, society dictates how men and women should behave, and if they do not fit into that stereotype, there must be something wrong with them.
I am a strong believer in the fact GOD made man to be the hunter and provider and women to be the caregiver and nurturing. Men can be providers and leaders of their households without being aggressive and obstinate. There are men who are born with a quite and demure disposition and that should be enough.

]]> By: Elsa Olvera http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/african-american-studies/the-effemination-of-males-2010-01-595/comment-page-1#comment-841 Elsa Olvera Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:44:26 +0000 http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/?p=595#comment-841 Like you said in these days in our society there are more males that become effeminate. I believe that one must see it as a common thing in society. the fact that a man mus love a woman or vise verse does not mean that it has to be that way. Now our country is free and it's been free since many years ago. Everyone is free to choose who they will love and who they won't. Like you said in these days in our society there are more males that become effeminate. I believe that one must see it as a common thing in society. the fact that a man mus love a woman or vise verse does not mean that it has to be that way. Now our country is free and it’s been free since many years ago. Everyone is free to choose who they will love and who they won’t.

]]> By: Yolanda Dews http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/african-american-studies/the-effemination-of-males-2010-01-595/comment-page-1#comment-629 Yolanda Dews Sun, 24 Jan 2010 02:41:08 +0000 http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/?p=595#comment-629 January 23, 2010 I argree with you in this article. This is just my personal opinion: I have a son, and I have taught him how to be respectful, and how to act. I told him there is a time and place for everything. I have taught my son to act a certain way in certain situations. But I don't believe a man should have any, any, feminine ways. He should be masculine at all times. Yes he can downplay his masculinity when the time comes with his wife, fiance'e, or girlfriend. But when he is around his buddies he should be free and be himself. I have always taught my son, to never be something that your'e not . Don't be fake with yourself.....But also don't be ghetto (which we are) in a crowd of caucasins, or any other race, so they can sit back and stare at you like you were an object or for entertaining. Me myself, I don't like a soft spoken man. And the man has to have a lil thug in him. My son is that. He attends PRairie View College, and it was a reality shock for him at first. He went down there with his pants hanging off his butt (which I hate)..but now he dresses differently, and thinks intelligently. But when he comes home, he feels free...He returns back to his old self for the short period of time he is here, then he returns with that college swag about himself. January 23, 2010

I argree with you in this article. This is just my personal opinion: I have a son, and I have taught him how to be respectful, and how to act. I told him there is a time and place for everything. I have taught my son to act a certain way in certain situations. But I don’t believe a man should have any, any, feminine ways. He should be masculine at all times.

Yes he can downplay his masculinity when the time comes with his wife, fiance’e, or girlfriend. But when he is around his buddies he should be free and be himself. I have always taught my son, to never be something that your’e not . Don’t be fake with yourself…..But also don’t be ghetto (which we are) in a crowd of caucasins, or any other race, so they can sit back and stare at you like you were an object or for entertaining.

Me myself, I don’t like a soft spoken man. And the man has to have a lil thug in him. My son is that. He attends PRairie View College, and it was a reality shock for him at first. He went down there with his pants hanging off his butt (which I hate)..but now he dresses differently, and thinks intelligently.

But when he comes home, he feels free…He returns back to his old self for the short period of time he is here, then he returns with that college swag about himself.

]]> By: Illa Rodgers TGovt2302 http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/african-american-studies/the-effemination-of-males-2010-01-595/comment-page-1#comment-618 Illa Rodgers TGovt2302 Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:48:08 +0000 http://www.bowtieprofessor.com/?p=595#comment-618 It seems to me that there is some unresolved issues with men like this. I have seen men act so strange as if there tongue was tide when another woman came around and they were married. I call these men lopsided men because they are not comfortable with their own identity, so they will seek out the women who will be a mother to them in respect. For so long men know how to dog out their wife and kids when they get home, but the woman get told yes sir, and no sir, but the wife get cussed out just for asking the brother to take out the trash. A lot of Lesbians have hatred towards men, and they will dog out everyman just to get at the one who hurt them, so maybe that is what happened to your friend. I can say this for a fact, because I knew this one Lesbian who was married before, and she had children by her husband and he dogged her out, and my friend flip the script and started liking women,and that is when I had to dissolve our friendship. She was so bitter that she became violent with men, she took a boxing class and told me that if a brother beat up on her again she will be prepared to whoop his, you know what. I mean she started working out and she really became a man,a nd along with it ,violence. However, there are some men who are tootie fruities ,and they talk on and on and on, till you wonder to yourself,"Do I as woman talk that dang on much? Oh yeas Professor BowTie I agree, there is something really going wrong with the culture we live in. It seems to me that there is some unresolved issues with men like this. I have seen men act so strange as if there tongue was tide when another woman came around and they were married. I call these men lopsided men because they are not comfortable with their own identity, so they will seek out the women who will be a mother to them in respect. For so long men know how to dog out their wife and kids when they get home, but the woman get told yes sir, and no sir, but the wife get cussed out just for asking the brother to take out the trash. A lot of Lesbians have hatred towards men, and they will dog out everyman just to get at the one who hurt them, so maybe that is what happened to your friend. I can say this for a fact, because I knew this one Lesbian who was married before, and she had children by her husband and he dogged her out, and my friend flip the script and started liking women,and that is when I had to dissolve our friendship. She was so bitter that she became violent with men, she took a boxing class and told me that if a brother beat up on her again she will be prepared to whoop his, you know what. I mean she started working out and she really became a man,a nd along with it ,violence. However, there are some men who are tootie fruities ,and they talk on and on and on, till you wonder to yourself,”Do I as woman talk that dang on much? Oh yeas Professor BowTie I agree, there is something really going wrong with the culture we live in.

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